Oh my god Pele, will you just shut your yap for once.
not in a million years.
If you want to voice your opinion, then do so after you THINK first. Seriously, you have to understand, we were booted out (some, namely me, pushed that to happen on purpose), and we belong to a Message board we all love now, and get along famously, but we also post here, and when the subject of the pool comes up (a place WE ALL BUILT, as Dru said above) we still complain about it
that's my point right there. You still complain about it. By all means, pregnant dog and moan as much as you like, the pool is obviously that interesting to you.
But like I said before. This isn't my battle. Just my confusion about why you're so bothered.
smoked salmon is important to me. that's some good eatin' there!
to defend her a little. anyone willing to get in a "serious" relationship with someone they met on the internet has a HOST of complications that are going to arise. for one, "virtual reality" is an oxymoron, so there's that. you gotta keep that in mind. second, on the internet, someone can "be" anyone they want (but the mask fades when the "2" enter the really real world). i'm not saying great relationships can't be made on the internet. i AM saying that it is very hard, much harder than in the really real world, BECAUSE each of the "2" have created an ideal version of the other. when they meet, the ideal can't stand up to the real. this failing of the ideal is precisely why all great romantic love stories end in death (the death's of the people are metaphors for the death of the relationship - this is precisely why we don't see sequels - had romeo and juliet not ACTUALLY died, the relationship would have certainly died because the ideal would have never withstood the real). if you read romantic love the way it is intended, you begin to see that it always ends in death (metaphorically written as the death of the relationship).
i highly recommend a great book called "beyond romance" by M C Dillon. he explains romantic love all the way up to "virtual reality" love. he shows the potential good from the internet, but also shows how it will most likely fail in bringing people together. is pretty quick read, so won't take more than 2-3 days.
Post by Sugarknickers on Aug 26, 2005 19:02:46 GMT -5
i met someone online once. i knew of him and he gave me his aol screen name but we never talked in real life....but we were to attracted to each other we were both shocked to see. i felt like i was in love with him and it was so easy to talk on the net but it real life i got kinda freaked out and clammed up. and ive told you this before but he told me he had herpes when i went to his house to jump his bones. what a shame... he was so hot! he just got married to my step sons school teacher...small world.
i dunno... i have never had a problem meeting men in real life so i havent used the net again for that purpose. although i do think it can be more productive than meeting someone in a bar. to each their own i guess.
blaming the "other" person for yourself and others being hurt seems a bit odd. sometimes it's your own d**n fault you got hurt. not saying this/these were the cases, but i have trouble believing that pele did all the damage. for starters, i'm sure there was some damage present prior to her. she can only work with what she is given. i KNOW one case that was NOT all (or for that matter ANY) her fault. there were TONS of problems long before she entered the picture. she can't be blamed for a broken person, and she certainly can't be expected to put them back together. that may make me sound like a "pompass windbag" (that's the phrase i was called by someone that got "hurt" by pele) but it is certainly the truth. and only a misogynist would see it as AWAYS pele's fault. i'm pretty sure we're talking about at least ONE of the same "person", and let me tell ya, he should have KNOWN at that point that she was not going to be interested in a long term relationship. she never has been. why start now?
d**n, once again...defending pele.
there is always at least 2 people in a relationship. when that relationship ends, people want to blame someone for the ending and the hurt. but that "want" is not always meritted. sometimes when you want to blame someone it is your own fault, usually for wanting too much too fast. and i am sure this is the case we are talking about.
Post by Captain Tidal on Aug 27, 2005 11:11:50 GMT -5
Oh, I won't lay blame solely on her, but honestly she talks a good game.....what that means is that I KNOW what she sounds like during a conversation, and that's all I need to know. Do I blame myself for my stupidity? Sure, I'm f**kin stupid ALOT of the time...LOL.
I'm not going to say to much though about it, cause the stuff me us is, mostly anyways, between us, and the stuff with other people, well she can talk a good game, but I MET that dude, and she's as broken as he is, so that made two of them, all I am saying is she should have tread a little more carefully. That being said we could say the same for him, so I suppose that is arguable too.
You would have to have spoken to her in said context to understand it fully Dru, it's not something for the he said she said crowd. Never been interested in a long term relationship? not really the picture we all have, at least not as far as I can recall. People say alot of things when they become infatuated I guess, but like I said, you'd have to have had a conversation with her in that context to know.
I don't hate Pele. I don't suppose I ever hated her outright, I don't like hating people. I dislike what I see as a repetitive streak in these instances, and it bothers me. In fact I wish that Pele finds all the happiness she is seeking in her life. I get angry for the reasons I stated above, but I wish her no ill will in this, only that she thinks more about it.
In certain regards Dru, you are correct, it is never all the fault of one party. I cannot claim entire innocence.
I've said my peace, and how about I put this to rest. Pele, if you are reading, which I can only assume you are. I'm sorry if my words hurt you, and like I said above I wish you happiness, but I have my reasons, and you well know them. I'll not talk about it, me and you, or you and anyone else on this board again. Okay? We don't have to be friends, but I think we can bury this old rusty crap eh?
Oh, but I am NEVER gonna stop ragging on the Pool. that's just WAAAAYYY too much fun!!
As always Dru, your debating mind is alwas well thought out. ^_^